Speaker 2: 0:19

Next up on Soul Level Human. She gave it to me. I throw the book in the trash. You know it's just like don't give me this garbage. Little by little I opened up to it. The more I leaned into the spiritual aspect. Everything I touched just turned to gold, like everything started working.

Speaker 1: 0:33

If you feel like your soul came to this planet for a reason and you're looking around at the state of the world in heartache and disbelief, it's because your soul is ready to step into the mission you came here to complete. You have soul level awareness and skills to develop and soul level people to meet. You didn't sign up to do this alone. If you're ready to soul level your life, you're going to need to work on your clarity, courage and trust muscles. I'm your guide, sylvia Beatriz, psychic channel, intuition coach and soul level mama of two under 10. This world is ready for a new way. This world is ready for you. Welcome to Soul Level Human. Today's guest is none other than my business coach, james Wedmore. If you haven't heard of James yet, that's okay. I hadn't either. About a year ago, I binged his Mind your Business podcast when I found him. It was so awesome because one, he talks all about spirituality and intuition and business, which you know I love and two, his episodes feature some incredible digital CEO success stories from all kinds of people, like moms who make six figures, teaching, meal planning or budgeting, to a photographer whose business by design supported her family while she underwent chemo. Her story is incredible. Actually, I'm going to put all of these podcast episodes in the show notes for you to check out later. But I mean, there's teachers, there's coaches, there's doctors and all of these real stories of real people really help our left brain start to believe and accept the idea that success is inevitable for anybody who's willing to implement the 3D strategy and 5D tools. If you've been listening to the show, you know that I'm a business by design partner and that's a responsibility that I take extremely seriously. James and I have incredibly aligned missions. He walks the talk and how he shows up and the life he's built. Every single experience I've had with him personally and his incredible team shout out, team, wedmore, you're amazing has been level 10 integrity, top tier communication and generosity, and that extends to how he runs his business.

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James is offering three days of live training completely free, called the Rise of the Digital CEO, and it starts on June 6th, that's, if you're listening to this, on the same day it comes out. If you don't know what you could possibly offer, if you don't know who your audience is, if you don't have a very big social following and you're starting from scratch, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter where you are. You will get a ton of value from this, and me too, beginner's mind. I'm going to be going through the rise again this year and if you would like to join me for a study buddy group, email me and we'll get it going totally for free. Let's hang out, let's go through the training together and we will learn everything we can together, from bending spoons in a room of 1000 people from around the world at BBD live this last December to hanging out in Sedona together in April to having him on my podcast to share with you today. Without further ado, let's start the episode.

Speaker 1: 3:52

James Wedmore, so excited to welcome you to Soul Level Human, thanks for being here. I want to start with your journey. You talk about spirituality and you talk about business, but I know that spirituality hasn't always been like your MO. Where did you come from? How did you arrive at all of this stuff?

Speaker 2: 4:10

Yeah, so I. It was always in my, my blood, ever since I was a little kid, that I was an entrepreneur, right. So I was starting businesses from a young age, always had ideas, always working on something like literally like the lemonade stand. When you're seven I got paid to water all the neighbors gardens growing up and I would pluck the fruit and then sell it to the other neighbors, Like I always had something that I was doing and I and I just that was in me. I was. I was in high school, I was flipping and restoring vintage motorcycles and selling it on eBay. I was always doing something. And you go to college, get the degree, realize I didn't want to go any corporate route and I was like this is what I've been doing since I was a little kid, Let me start my own business. And I found myself really, really struggling. It was actually four and a half years of exhausting the 3D, which was this operating system that I created of. If I work the hardest and I work the longest, then I will be successful.

Speaker 1: 5:08

A plus B equals C super linear.

Speaker 2: 5:10

Right, just work harder than anybody else and you'll be successful. And long story short, I ended up getting addicted to Adderall, which is like speed, which I ended up dropping like 70. I looked like a skeleton. I was working 12 to 14 hours a day, seven days a week. I had to move back home with my mom and dad because I wasn't making a dollar. You know, my girlfriend at the time broke up with me. All my friends didn't want anything to do with me and I found myself in a really low point and that was really hard because the desire was still there. I had the dream and I was like I'm putting in the work and I don't get it.

Speaker 2: 5:44

But it's really interesting because we learn so much from our parents. So I had that was my dad, you know he was the hardworking real estate agent. But I also had my mom and my sister and I was kind of like being the dude, you know the logical, cerebral, left brain kind of dude. What they were doing just seemed like fairies in La La Land manifesting and energy and getting readings and buying crystal, and I would just like make fun of all that. And you kind of get to such a low point where, like you want it so bad and you've been doing this for so long and it's not working. You're like, what do I got to lose at this point? And slowly they started opening me up. I think the first was a book my mom got me. It was Abraham Hicks and it was asking it as given. First time she gave it to me I throw the book in the trash. You know, it's just like don't give me this garbage. Like this is just ridiculous. So I was very staunchly against all of that Right, and you know, little by little I opened up to it and I really treated it like a science experiment in my life.

Speaker 2: 6:44

The more I leaned into the spiritual aspect and integrated that into my life, everything I touched just turned to gold, like everything started working.

Speaker 2: 6:52

And so there became a point where, like I can't, I can't ignore that anymore and I just kept, you know, following that, and you know, the short premise is like the more you grow, the more your, more your business grows, and and I chose a path of spirituality as a, as a way for me to grow within myself and I think that is so much of spirituality is. You know, people might have some preconceived notions, but like I look at so much of it is just like it's just us growing because we are spiritual. So it's like allowing more of your truer self to come through and shedding layers of of of the ego, the aspects of ourselves that don't don't serve us. And the more you let that come through, the more at least my experience has been like, the more your life just seems to have a congruency, a workability and a and a flow. And so you know, I just didn't, I didn't stop, I was like I'm, I dove in, you know, the deep end.

Speaker 1: 7:48

And I built a business. You drank the Kool-Aid Welcome.

Speaker 2: 7:51

I drank the Kool-Aid and I ended up building a business and I've, all of a sudden, I found myself making over $2 million a year. I even went and saw a reader at the time and she goes oh, you've broken the generational curse of poverty in your family. And I knew exactly what she was, what she was talking about, and I think a lot of people are doing that in this time. They're kind of breaking these curses and paradigms of their lineage and realizing we're in a completely different world. Times are changing so incredibly fast and people are changing. And and what I did was I had a passion I still do, because I went to film school so I had this passion for video. So I built a business on the internet making videos and teaching video, and it was so much fun and obviously very lucrative and successful.

Speaker 2: 8:36

But as time continued to progress, this subtle thought that turned into this nagging nudge was just like pulling at me, which is like you're, you're helping people with video, but that's not the biggest thing that's helped you. And so I'm sitting here saying like, hey, video is going to help you, Video is going to help your business, and obviously it's a tool, but at the end of the day. What was helping me was all that spiritual stuff, all that growth that I was having, and so I just said you know, I'm going to just start a podcast and I'm just going to start talking about this stuff and it and it really took off and people really started. And well, actually, at first it didn't. If I'm being really honest, I had an email list at the time of 170,000 email subscribers. I had so many unsubscribes that I was left with less than 30,000 people.

Speaker 1: 9:22

I got. How did that impact you at that time?

Speaker 2: 9:24

I didn't care, I just it was weird, like talk about the intuition piece, like I just knew I was like it doesn't matter, this is where I'm going. Change is inevitable, obviously, and when changes occur, there's these transitory periods of time where to be not to sound too cliche where, like, one door is closing, the other is opening and so often where we hold ourselves and our attention is on the door that's closing. And so when that's where your attention is, you see what's going out the window, you see what you're losing, you see what you no longer have, and that puts us and hooks us into more. You know fear and scarcity and lack, and I just I just didn't go there, I just was like no, I know this is what I'm supposed to do and I just I just kept going. There was this moment of time where like, oh my gosh, like Sylvia, I'm getting negative reviews, like this guy's lost it.

Speaker 2: 10:12

He's crazy. I mean like, just like getting just barraged.

Speaker 1: 10:16

He's changed.

Speaker 2: 10:17

But here's the funny thing it was the comments I was getting was me, it was old, me it was the skeptical closed mind, logical me, and so I had a lot, and I still, to this day, I have a lot of compassion for that, and I think that's something that I really honor and cherish in the work that I do is that opening my heart to allow more spirituality into my life has had a tremendous impact in every area, not just business.

Speaker 2: 10:47

When a lot of people come to work with me, they come to work with me to be their business coach, and so a lot of them are very rooted in the 3D and solely in the 3D, and so they have a lot of skepticism, closed-mindedness, a lot of density, and I have nothing but compassion to understand, because I'm like, oh, that was me too, and I think part of the beautiful journey for a lot of density, and I have nothing but compassion and understanding because I'm like, oh, that was me too, and I think part of the beautiful journey for a lot of people is making that transition and it takes a lot of courage.

Speaker 2: 11:11

It takes a lot of faith and a lot of openness, because the conversations that we're having are so intangible. It's this subtle energy that, especially when it's new for you, you're kind of like I'm just making this up in my head, this thought or this vision? Did I just make that up? And to trust that and to trust in yourself and to trust in what you're receiving and to trust in something that you cannot see is such an impressive feat of courage. First off, I have so much compassion and it's always a joy if I could play that role. To open that door for somebody and I see that that's what I do for a lot of business owners is like bringing that into something that's a very 3D game, makes it a lot more fun.

Speaker 1: 11:52

I find that spirituality is a relationship. It's the relationship to yourself, it's the relationship to the universe, to the cosmos, to the world around you. And I find that within relationships it takes vulnerability to open yourself up to a new possibility and over time you're able to build a sense of trust, because I don't believe in blind faith, I don't believe in throwing critical thinking out the window. My dad's a math professor. He's a mathematician. I have a very logical brain and I've always been intuitive as well. So I find, just like you, I can speak to both sides of the equation and that's kind of my superpower, because I can make sense of both sides of it and bring it all together in a way that's healthy, that's ethical, that's reasonable. And with us thinking about things in that logical sort of way, I find that it's even more powerful, because then you coax and welcome the left brain so that it's on board fully, so that it's not like tripping you up.

Speaker 2: 12:56

It needs to be satiated, like it really needs that, and I needed that. And so that just was something I cultivated over time and and I needed that, and so that just was something you, I cultivated over time, like a muscle, you know. And so today I think the biggest thing is it's like about fostering an awareness, and today I know that there's no such thing as a as a coincidence. So when things are happening and you're more present, you can perceive more and not just talking like, oh, I had a vision, or whatever, but like you know, the animal that tapped on your window this morning and the numbers that you're noticing on the clock, and the book that got recommended three times by three different people in the last three days and you just start to pay attention to that more and you realize that, like all these little signs and nudges are guiding you and supporting you and, and it's like it's just our free will choice to see, am I going to a? Am I going to? Am I going to notice those things, cause they're always there.

Speaker 2: 13:53

We're just like oblivious to it most of the time, and then am I going to act on those things, and the more I've just trained myself to do those two things it's been such a gift is like notice more. And to do those two things it's been such a gift is like notice more and and it's like it's always discovering more, like there's just something, something you you wouldn't even notice. You know it's like you can go outside and you didn't even notice there's a bird chirping at you for five minutes. You know, and cause you're thinking about what you got to do once you're finished going on your walk and going back to work. And I got to them, am I learning from those? And that's been really, you know, beautiful for me.

Speaker 1: 14:28

That's so cool. I similar to you. I don't believe in mistakes or coincidences. I believe in learning opportunities that the universe just drops in our lap, and I'm wondering if you have any stories that can speak to that.

Speaker 2: 14:41

Gosh, I have so many. I years ago I was promoting a program of a friend of mine and it was when I was the YouTube guy and this was a business program and it totally tanked and I was like really disappointed and I called my now my significant other, jen, who you know and she was also. She was someone who really assisted me in like opening up spiritually because she's a psychic and she's like crazy gifted. So I called her looking for guidance and like one of the first things, when I told her that it tanked, I said, just like organically, totally organic, I'm like I knew this was going to, was going to fail, like well, that's, that's evidence right there that you're intuitive. That's evidence right there that you're intuitive.

Speaker 2: 15:23

And that's the first piece. First off is like there's so much of a gift in that too, just to have that there's so many little stories that she and I both have today of like oh, make sure to bring this or don't do that when you leave the house. You know, and you're like sometimes you listen, sometimes you don't, but here's what's interesting it didn't do well, but I then went the step further to find out why. Number one thing people told me is they're like we don't, we don't want to learn from that person, we want to learn from you. And in the next moment I said oh, maybe I should create my own thing. And that's, that's how I created business by design, which is literally having a hot flash right now.

Speaker 1: 16:01

That's incredible. If you wouldn't have quote unquote failed in that moment, then maybe you wouldn't have gotten the breadcrumb that led you to starting everything you do now.

Speaker 2: 16:10

Again, like if you just put like the everything in context, like I was doing, just fine, I had a multi seven figure business teaching YouTube and video. And here's this person that was like I have this business and marketing course and it was a big high ticket program, and I was like, oh, I don't teach that, but people may need it, so I'd like to recommend that. And if that would have done so, if that would have done like half a million dollars, I wouldn't have said, okay, I'm gonna go do this myself Now. I would have said that's amazing, let's do that again. Just like you said before, like mistakes and coincidences, right, like that was what I needed to have occur to me to put me on a deeper path, or the next evolution of the work that I was already doing. And I don't prescribe to like the reckless, untrained intuition, this dramatic flare of intuition. I had a thought I'm just going to be reckless. However, I could imagine that people on the outside looking in could perceive it that way, if that makes sense, because it still goes beyond logic and reason. And we do a segment on my show and it's a case study from one of our successful students every week and I have done these interviews and now Jen does these interviews for five years. So this is just like maybe 100 or two that we've done.

Speaker 2: 17:31

And the most common thing that I hear from people and these are all people that have had significant success the most common thing they all say universally it's so fascinating, it's not prompted, I don't ask for it, they all just say it organically. They say you know, james, at one point I just knew, I just knew this was going to work. I just knew that this was going to be the right. I just knew this is what I was meant to do. And I, I just know myself, little by little. We have to find that knowing again within ourselves and and not lose that and trust that On the outside, someone else looking in, because it's like, oh, this is just reckless abandonment or oh, you're just trusting yourself. But when you know, you know and there's something that's just so beautiful because I think most people have at some point in their life they stop trusting themselves.

Speaker 1: 18:19

Definitely. I mean our family and society. We all just deprogram ourselves from ourselves, and that's such a natural evolution of what it means to be a human. So what I find so interesting about the timing of all of this I mean, you look around, the world is on fire, literally right, and I'd love your take on this. Actually, I've been talking to my guides, as per usual, and what they've said about everything going on is that it's a mass awakening of the heart. All souls are in service of activating our own power. In the 3D, power equals money and in the 5D, power equals energy. So we need heart-centered, heart-led people who want to step into that power, both 3D and 5D, so that we can accelerate change in the world and do the job that we came here to do. What's your take on all this?

Speaker 2: 19:15

Yeah, you know, I've had the fortunate opportunity I met and started working with a real shaman back in 2015. And he lives out in Sedona, arizona, with me. He's like my neighbors, it's like kind of right down the street. He didn't like go to a shaman school and get a certificate. He was born into this lineage from a tribe from Mexico and he was trained up from a young age of like 12 years old.

Speaker 2: 19:42

Know he shares a lot with what's going on and, yeah, it's, the world is that is on fire and and you know, and not for anybody to get in fear, because it's the opposite, it's going to get worse. I mean it's. I mean you just look at the trajectory it's going to get. It's going to get bumpier and you know, the first piece with that is consider the possibility that us being alive at this time, we chose to be alive during this time. We chose to be alive during this time and we chose to be here during this time and a lot of the people that are kind of like more waking up to things around them tend to be the older souls and a lot of that chaos and stuff is congruent with the massive shifts that are taking place on the planet, with people and what I know on a personal level and I'm sure I could just say this very simply and most people would resonate that if you look back and recapitulate on your own personal life, the challenges as unfortunate as they've been that you've gone through in your life tend to be where you see the most growth, tends to be where you learn the most, and with this, you know rising in consciousness, awakening, you know, shifts, whatever you want to call it. Unfortunately, like it's through pain and problems and challenges that we tend to be wired for the most growth.

Speaker 2: 21:03

You know we pay attention when there's a problem. We pay attention when things go bad, and I was actually just, in the business sense of things, talking to a client yesterday. This is a microcosm example of what's going on. I've worked with them for a couple of years, right, and I saw a pattern of behavior that was like uh-oh, red flags, this is not good. So the writing was on the wall and I'm trying to offer my coaching, I'm trying to offer my advice, and it wasn't really received. That's okay. But then recently they hit a brick wall with some big problems and all of a sudden they're paying attention and they're listening, and so it brings truth to this little axiom or concept quote of first God throws a pebble, then a rock. If you're still not listening, you get the boulder and most of us.

Speaker 2: 21:54

As hard as it is to accept it. Pain is a blessing because it really forces us to pay attention to something that we have not been paying attention to. So there's the most massive opportunity for growth right now with all of us as humanity and collectively, and obviously you can imagine growth can be really painful. It doesn't have to be as painful as we make it. It doesn't have to be as messy as we make it.

Speaker 2: 22:20

The term that my shaman uses, which I love, is called the shamanic death, and the best way I can describe that is you know, you've already invited. It's like you've ordered from Amazon more growth. You know I'm ordering a better future. I'm saying yes to something bigger, better, brighter out there, and so it's like, okay, but in order to do that, something's got to go right, and this whole concept of letting go to let in is so true.

Speaker 2: 22:48

And so, as we say yes to ourselves, we can have these experiences of the shamanic death or a lot of people call it the ego death where it really feels like everything around you is falling apart, yeah, and you're like what the fuck, right?

Speaker 2: 23:02

And everything is just falling apart and you're freaking out and losing it, and it becomes so painful for us. But a lot of the pain in that is in the holding on of the very thing that we're trying to let go, and or the higher aspect of ourselves is trying to let go. So the pain is in the like, but I still got to do it this way, this is the way, and it's like it's no longer serving me. And then there's this moment where you get it. You get the lesson, you get the insight, you realize something about yourself that you didn't realize before, and on the other side of that and this is something he told me he says you know, I never want anybody to go through these shamanic deaths because they're really painful, but the growth that you have on the other side of that, that catapults you, is unbelievable, and so I think, if I share this, it's probably fair to say most people have had at least one experience like that in their life, and so then you can imagine like we're doing that kind of collectively.

Speaker 1: 24:00

On a collective yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:02

On a big, big level and that's going to continue to happen. And you're seeing that and you know, I think the advice I would really pass on there is like, first of all, see it for what it is. And number two, like you got to get out of your stuff, your fear and your ego and all of that. And unfortunately, you know, when you're in business, we have social media, but use it, don't let it use you, because you can go on there and you can get sucked in and pulled down by all of it. You know, and people can be so nasty right now and we want to do our best to rise above that.

Speaker 2: 24:37

You know getting into your fear or anger isn't helping anybody. Above that, you know getting into your fear or anger isn't isn't helping anybody. And so something he said that was maybe you've heard versions of this, but as we go through this transition, this, this Ascension, we only need 1% of people to really like awaken, if you will, on the planet and that causes a ripple effect for the rest of the collective. And so there, was.

Speaker 1: 25:01

I'm here for it.

Speaker 2: 25:03

Yeah, exactly Exactly. It's like be that 1%, and I think it was a book, but it was also a study. The 100th monkey effect have you ever heard of that?

Speaker 1: 25:12

Tell me more. That just sparked something. Go ahead.

Speaker 2: 25:15

So the and I'm going to botch the details, but the general concept is there. So the hundredth monkey effect was they were studying the habits and behaviors of a group of monkeys I want to say I can't remember papa new guinea maybe and they taught the monkeys. They taught a monkey or a group of monkeys how to wash the potatoes in the river, once they fall and land in the mud, and they noticed that they would teach the monkeys how to do that and then the monkeys would teach the other monkeys and all of a sudden all the monkeys in this little family are now washing the potato in the river when they weren't doing that before. That's not the interesting part. Then they go to the other side of the island and the monkeys over there are suddenly doing the same thing.

Speaker 2: 25:57

And it's this phenomenon of the tipping point and it really creates an implication of a, of a interconnectedness of consciousness, so that all of a sudden it was because it was active in enough of the DNA and consciousness of this group of monkeys. It automatically became a knowing in another group. And when I first heard about that, that always stood with me as such a powerful example and metaphor, because it's very easy for us to think that what we do doesn't matter, what we say, how we treat somebody else doesn't matter. By the way, side note, I was tripping out about this because if you ever want to just have a trippy experience, let's trip go. Watch NDE videos on YouTube.

Speaker 1: 26:38

My favorite thing. I love it.

Speaker 2: 26:41

Greatest hobby pastime you could ever, and I was watching one last night. So these are. These are people sharing their experience of crossing over and coming back, and one of the most common things they talk about is a life review that they have. And it's like this 360 degree, all at once life review where they are shown and reviewed their life experiences, usually from the perspective of the people that interacted with you. So you like, relive your life from the recipient receiver yes, Receiver of who you interacted with.

Speaker 2: 27:13

And this woman was sharing this beautiful life review and she was young when she I mean, she must've been in her mid twenties when she passed and then came back and the biggest thing she had in the life review was this message of how much your existence matters, how much every action, everything you say, matters, and she was shown all these.

Speaker 2: 27:34

It's so beautiful, like she was tearing up of, like the moment she was just smiled at the store clerk and how that made somebody's day.

Speaker 2: 27:42

And she tells a story of one of her relatives who was shunned from the family because he was an alcoholic and she still made time to go get lunch with him once a week, every week, and she was shown how much that healed him and helped him in his life. And it's, it's so easy to see so many problems and so much anger and so much, so many people in their stuff and to then go. Well, you know what I can be too. You know it's like no one's perfect and it's so easy to go there and it was like. But every moment in every day, you, you, have an opportunity to, to touch somebody's life and make a difference. And you know, we're all human, we're all doing in this human form, we're doing the best we can, and no one's, no one's, perfect and we all have our own lessons. But you know, when you keep that in the back of your mind, when that really becomes the context for your life, it really encourages and perpetuates, uh, more kindness, more.

Speaker 1: 28:35

And more resilience too, because I feel like your focus is less on the ego. It's just like no, you get to just release the impact of all of it and just set your intention and know that you're being used in this greater context.

Speaker 2: 28:46

Totally yeah. That you can't even, your brain can't even comprehend, like the ripple effect that that could have for somebody you know.

Speaker 1: 28:52

Oh, that actually totally got me Just the simplicity of it and the universality of it right, because we're all on this journey, we're all on this human. We've forgotten who we are. We are in the weeds. We're literally in the weeds, but if we're able to just pull back and view ourselves, it's like honey I shrunk the kids, right If we can just get up there and see, oh, wow, this is how we're all connected, this is how it all works, and it could be so much easier.

Speaker 1: 29:27

And I feel like the thing that you were saying. You put it in a way that it doesn't have to be so hard, but when it is hard, it's because we needed that version of the lesson and that's exactly it. On the macro and the micro, we haven't been listening. The world is a shit show because we haven't done what we needed to do at any opportunity and I feel like, unfortunately, it had to get this loud in order to impact the most people and to get the most positive result. On the other side of whatever this thing is, I have a lot of hope.

Speaker 2: 30:29

Yeah, side of whatever this thing is, I have a lot of hope. Yeah, I mean, most people I know right now are going through something or have been going through something you know, really challenging, and you know I went. The hardest thing I went through is, you know, like 2020 was such a significant fun year.

Speaker 1: 30:46

Yeah, how was that for you? Yeah?

Speaker 2: 30:49

Well, you know it was, it was a zero and a 10. So, yeah, because I yeah. And the second thing started going down, which is like end of February I had already bought a place to be an Airbnb out in Sedona. I was living out in Laguna beach, california, southern California, orange County, and I just said to my wife at the time I said I think I'm just going to go to Sedona for a little bit, maybe set up this Airbnb, and I went out there and I never left and this is where I've been ever since.

Speaker 2: 31:19

I went through the whole pandemic in this extremely powerful spiritual place that is Sedona, where people have a lot of profound experiences.

Speaker 2: 31:29

You know this was sacred ceremonial land for the natives. They didn't live here, this is where they came for ceremony and so it's a really really um, the, the, the empaths and the very sensitive people like feel stuff out here. So I just happened to go out there right as the whole world was shutting down and it was like the whole town, cause there's only 10,000 people that live here, but there's like anywhere from, they say, three to six million tourists that come a year. So it was like me in the town by myself, and so it was a beautiful gift in that, but what happens to a lot of people is and this is what's been happening with a lot of people that I know is these shamanic deaths. And so, yeah, I found myself in a time where there was challenges in my, my business, my marriage, I got served divorce papers and and my dad was passing, and all of this happened in like one week. You know, it's like the power of three.

Speaker 1: 32:19

Hold on one week.

Speaker 2: 32:21

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, it wasn't. It was intense and and I had this like real emotional moment where I broke down Cause it was kind of like this theme of like the morning, like people in your life that you cared about, leaving you, you know, and that was hard. But, you know, going through all of that and going through a divorce and navigating that was, hands down, the hardest thing I've gone through in this in this lifetime. It was really. It was really tough and despite how tough it was, I mean I wouldn't want to go do it again. Okay, so let's not, let's not repeat that, but I wouldn't. If I had the choice, I wouldn't remove that from my memory because within that challenge I learned so much, I gained so much. But what I'm also really grateful for, that I was really surprised in, was that it gave me so much to give to others and the amount of people that I see today that are going through something like challenges in a relationship or a divorce or just like it feels like such a big shamanic death where their whole life is falling apart, and I get to be that person that's there for that person, like been there, done that and you're going to make it through this alive and you're going to be okay Feels like the greatest. You know. Honor and privilege and I think that just kind of circles like what I was talking about before in just another roundabout way, which is when we can persevere and cultivate that resilience and rise above, then we assist others to do the same and we get to be those like leaders of light. And to me I find that is like such an honor and it's unreal. I had three people in one week call me that are close friends and they're like I'm getting a divorce and that's not something I would ever wish on anybody. But I saw that as like you go through something Now you have an opportunity to assist others with it. And it's the same with my business career.

Speaker 2: 34:16

I struggled for so long that I'm like that's why I could help others, and so I do find today so much beauty. I know it sounds so weird, but there's just so much beauty in the struggle. There's so much good in the pain that we go through because of who we become on the other side and what we take with us and the strength that we have because of that, and you can just see it in somebody. You can see someone who's green, there's like, ah, you kid, you don't. I mean no disrespect the 24-year-old life coach that's giving life advice. It's like, kid, you haven't been through anything yet. Versus someone who's like closing to retirement age and they're in some shit. And you're like, wow, you know, there's a spiritual concept that I'm sure you're aware of which is that we choose everything when we come into this life.

Speaker 2: 35:04

You know, we've heard things like that's a hard pill to swallow, very hard pill. Here's my theory on this. If you ever have an experience in your life that's really difficult and uncomfortable and you choose it. If you go like I choose to go through this, I accept this it's unbelievable what starts to happen when you choose the bad that you're already experiencing and so I also tell you know my students and listeners on my podcast to the degree in which you accept what is is the is the degree in which you have the power to do something about it.

Speaker 2: 35:34

So, the moment you're going through something right now, if you can think of anything, it doesn't have to be something big, but like the, the challenge of the week, the problem of the day, right, you choose it. Like I accept this, I choose this. It's like you're realigning back with your higher self or your soul, and reminding yourself that, yeah, of the truth, like I chose this and I must. If I chose this, I must have chosen it, for for a reason as painful as this is, and it's, it's unbelievable that something powerful happens, because what's the opposite, what's the opposite of choosing, is rejecting. So rejection is an aisle of what is. It's a resistance of what is. It's a pushing away of reality, and if you push away what is, you give your power away.

Speaker 1: 36:16

So much more painful.

Speaker 2: 36:17

So much more painful because now it has power over you, and so I just find that so, so you can sit there listening and go. I don't really believe that. I don't really believe we chose all this and that's totally fine. Don't believe anything. Try it and just try choosing and saying yes to the battle that you are facing right now, Not from a place of, like I love it and I want more pain, trauma in my life, no, from just a neutral acceptance of it. This is happening, this is this is happening. I choose this consciously. I accept what is occurring in my life and most people and I've done this with people like just on coaching calls and conversations and it's like this power comes, personal power, comes flooding back to them and then it's like they were just giving their power to it.

Speaker 2: 37:13

Which Einstein's famous quote right you can't solve a problem from the same level of consciousness that created it. So we keep calling it and declaring it and manifesting it a problem. It keeps remaining a problem, and I had to do that. My divorce took two years and seven months, so I had to do that every mother effing day. I had to get up every day and choose this and accept this, because I'm trying to run a business and you know, keep everything afloat. And you've got all these things pulling on you and taking you and like threatening everything. And then you got you know your dad is passing.

Speaker 1: 37:48

It was just like threatening everything, and then you got you know your dad is passing, it was just like how did you get through it? What did you do? How? How do you show up?

Speaker 2: 37:58

for life and say yes to all of that all at the same time? Yeah, great question. So I was actually really. I mean, I'm not going to ever say anything personal because I'm. I would never. There's a code of conduct in which I live my life, so I would never. I could never say anything disparaging or bad you know about anyone. But I would assume my ex would agree that, like, yeah, it was the right decision.

Speaker 2: 38:17

You know, I was really proud of myself first, that when you go through a divorce, there can be a lot of money, a lot of lawyers and all that stuff at stake. And there are people that would stay in a marriage because they don't want the cost, the expense. And I could have done that. I could have said, even though we shouldn't be together and we're not happy together and we're not in love, I don't want to go through that pain of a divorce because of the cost. And I did not do that. And so the first lesson I chose, the first choice I made, because we are here in the having this free will and we make these choices, and with every choice comes the consequence, right, cause and effect. And I chose love over money and I I'm really I'm really proud of myself because a younger version of me that was more business. You know, young dude wanting to accomplish and make money and strive and be successful would have never made that choice and that was a huge lesson in story for me.

Speaker 2: 39:17

So if we want to get into the theme of love here, I started dating this girl the second time. First time didn't work out. Second time we start dating in my mid twenties and I was starting my business at the time. So I'm like really business focused and I wasn't into this spiritual stuff at all and she's just pouring unconditional love into me and I had a really hard time with that.

Speaker 2: 39:38

My heart was very closed off at the time and it was too much for me and I literally at 26 years old, as a male, I was like I don't really, I just want a business. Like I don't really, I just want a business, like I don't need this and I pushed it away and I pushed her away and I had resigned myself to being like love really isn't that important. And so you know, long story short, I marry somebody else to teach me about love, and the best way to teach somebody about the importance of something, like if I wanted to teach you the importance of oxygen, I'd put you under water, like if I wanted to teach you the importance of oxygen.

Speaker 1: 40:09

I'd put you under water, Take it away real quick, exactly.

Speaker 2: 40:11

And so for me to reach that place to see something that was so important to me that I had closed myself off of was something I was really, really proud of. Well, that person that I dated and pushed away is Jen, who I'm with today, and that's a 20-year relationship in the making. So I learned my lesson in that, and so the first answer to that question for me was and there's a lot of answers because I had to go to a lot of places obviously, if I said, if all I do is learn this lesson and choose love over money, then everything must be congruent with that, and I will have love on the other side of this, even if I don't have any money, because there was a moment in time, if we're getting down to it, where a forensic CPA, you know, working with the attorney, says, well, just be prepared, you know you might need to pay out like $16 million.

Speaker 2: 40:57

I'm like what, huh, I don't have $16 million? Right? Like divorces get expensive, you know, because you have a business. So there's like the implications of what is the perceived value and they're going to argue this and it's like, oh, my goodness, I had to accept that the 17 years because I've been doing this for 17 years now of business that I've worked at, I would have to start over, but I would have what's more important, which is love, and I had to just continue to choose that every day, remind myself that that was the right choice and that once you make a choice that you know is the right choice, you don't doubt it, you don't look back, you don't hesitate, you just keep going forward. The next piece of this, sylvia, was understanding, and this will really help people, especially that are spiritually minded people in business, because fear is something we all get to do a dance with. Right, everyone's going to have their fear right.

Speaker 2: 41:49

You don't get out of this life alive without having your battle with fear. And when you start a business or a venture or a project, the first big fear that arises for most people is what if this doesn't work right? Well, this had worked. But when it does work for somebody, they think the fear just goes away. No, it just gets replaced, and it was replaced for me with what if this doesn't last? And that's where a lot of people that have had any type of success now have is like what if this is just a fluke? It's just a matter of time before the other shoe falls, and I was doing that for a really long time.

Speaker 2: 42:33

So here's the good news Wherever you are, in your business or in your life, everything that you have and everything you've created it is a fact that you created that from nothing. You created that from this powerful place of of nothing, and what I also know to be true is that which you have created up until this point. You now know how to do. That's within you, like as a frequency. You know how to hold that frequency, which means, no matter what happens in life, you can always get back to that frequency, always. So it was those two things were the biggest things, which is, I've made the right decision. I'm choosing love over money, which is always more important. We know, we need to know that right. I was right and I said whatever does happen, whatever does occur, if I have to go, like you know, sell everything and just start over, it's going to be temporary, because I created all of this from zero. Therefore, I can do it again, and I would do it like that, like in an instant, and that I had to just train myself and remind myself of that every single day.

Speaker 2: 43:23

And then the last piece was like I had to work through any anger and resentment that I had. I love the Buddhist quote of anger is swallowing poison and hoping the other person dies first, and I was like I don't want that anger within me. So there was a lot of purging, there was a lot of feel it and let it go. Yeah, I'm angry, oh man, this happened, and that pissed me off, just like all right, feel it and then just let it go through you.

Speaker 2: 43:50

I really do believe that the most important thing for all of us is our wellbeing and that's our physical, mental and emotional health, and for us to stay in that and find yourselves in that. It should be our number one priority, because you can't give to others what you don't have within yourself. And so I had to prioritize that and I was like I'm not going to take myself down, I'm not going to wallow in that. I'm going to work on myself, I'm going to heal from that, I'm going to process and I'm going to feel what I need to feel and I'm going to work through that instead of just sticking it. Stay in it for two and a half years. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 44:23

I mean it's a choice that you have always, but the consequences of that choice I mean whoa.

Speaker 2: 44:31

Yeah, I know. So, yeah, that was, that was definitely a journey and I wouldn't I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world because it was. It was such a gift for me and I learned a lot, I grew a lot, tremendously, and now today I can I can help people with that as well, you know.

Speaker 1: 44:45

Well, that's my next question. So if you bring to mind 2019, james and you now and all the shit that happened in between, what would you even say to that guy?

Speaker 2: 44:58

Well, buckle up, don't worry, it'll all be over soon. Good luck, don't worry, it'll all be over soon. Like, just just hold on tight, you know, because, like talk about so I get a lot of, you know, messages through animal medicine, and so something started happening to me in 2019. So I started going through like my awakening and, don't get me wrong, like I have a lot of my awakening to progress. Okay, I'm just saying I'm a little bit more. I've cultivated a little bit more. I've cultivated a little bit more of awareness today than I did five years ago. But I come home from work, my office, and I come home and this is in my house in Laguna in 2019. And there's a roadrunner on my property and I go oh my gosh, I've never seen a roadrunner. And then the next day, the same time, in the exact same location, I see a coyote. And when you start diving in to the messages and the medicine of those two animals, I have to stop you right there.

Speaker 1: 45:59

This is in Laguna that this happened. Huh yeah. This whole time I've heard this story, but this whole time I'm picturing you in the desert. These are desert animals.

Speaker 2: 46:10

I know and I've never seen another roadrunner in Laguna ever since then Whoa Sedona was calling you.

Speaker 2: 46:18

I know. So the roadrunner, first of all its feet, makes like a, an X. So it's kind of like X marks the spot. It's like this is the target, it symbolizes good fortune. It's kind of like come on, follow the, follow the white rabbit. You know, it's kind of like that. And then the coyote is obviously, you know, like the Looney Tunes. Wiley coyote is like chasing the, the, the roadrunner Right. And so it was the start of a path.

Speaker 2: 46:42

And I started to have my first big, shamanic death around that same time. And what had happened is imagine 15 or 14, however many years have been 14, 13 years of running this business, and it was like my whole identity, it was like my whole purpose, it was my whole life. In fact, it did so well for my life that it made it easy to cope with a marriage that wasn't working, because, as a guy especially, I could just like put this in a little box over here. I'm not going to worry about that, we'll just go back to work right, because everything that's a value is like a cup that you know what's important to you and then I'm getting all my cups filled from work. So you're getting fulfillment, you're getting success and achievement, there's fun, there's creativity, like, there's impact, like there's just, it's amazing, right. So it was like didn't matter if this one little area in my life doesn't work. That's such bullshit, that's such a, that's such a nonsense. It's like having a car and like, or a motorcycle and one of the spokes is broken, but you're like, ah, screw it, let's go faster, make it work. Yeah, we're going to crash, right. So that's what was starting to happen.

Speaker 2: 47:55

Here's what was really interesting, at least for me. I don't know if this is interesting for your listeners, but all of a sudden, I start having these, these scary thoughts. They started entering my mind and it was like questioning everything. And this is a very common thing. I the amount of people I talk to that have started questioning their entire existence, their entire drives, why I'm doing what I'm doing. It doesn't matter anymore, I don't care anymore, what's the point of all of this? And it's a very scary feeling when you've had a lot of success because you had something to stand on that was really like clear and powerful, if this makes sense. And all of a sudden it feels like the floor just fell beneath you and you're questioning what you're doing with your life, and that's what started happening. And that was very hard for me, because imagine, I got a team, we've got bills and office and customers and all of a sudden I'm waking up going what's the point of all of it and why am I doing any of this? Does that really matter? And then I'm just freaking the F out about it.

Speaker 2: 48:51

So here's what really happened is, if this makes sense to anybody I don't know if it will, maybe it's just for me and you, but up until that point, this concept of spirituality was a tool that I was using to build my business. If I learn how to be more intuitive, it'll make better business decisions. That will make me more money. Oh, if I learn how to manifest, then I'll make more money in my business. Right, and what was happening is my entire world was being flipped upside down. The target was no longer business success and spirituality as a way to it. The new target was the path that you're walking, a spiritual path of your own decision and commitment to grow, and the business becomes a tool, for that becomes one tool, just like your relationship with your spouse becomes a way in which you integrate and learn spiritually with your kids, with your job, with taking out the trash and doing the dishes.

Speaker 1: 49:51

It's all aspects of you leading yourself back to you in the universe. Oh my gosh, holy shit, that's so big.

Speaker 2: 49:58

Fucking hard for me. That was so scary because I was so attached to all of that and it showed me how much attachment I had. And I'm sitting here going like, if I bring more spirituality into my life, does that mean I have to be a broke? You know hippie monk living meditating in a cave and I was so afraid of that, but at the same time I'd actually just so you have even more context 2019 was my most successful year I'd ever had. Up until that point, I had gone beyond all of my goals. I had exceeded any vision, goal or manifestation I had ever desired for myself, and so I was kind of in like a now what, anyways? And so that allowed me to be like but this is this thing. That's always been. What do I got to lose? And I allowed that like whole flip. I mean it just like it felt like my entire world just got flipped upside down.

Speaker 2: 50:51

Because you know, this concept of values is always really important, like your values are what are important to you in your life, and you have these milestones and these times in your life where where your values change, like the moment you get married or have kids. You know family love, you know commitment. These things become more value where it's just like in your 20s maybe they weren't, you know and it was like all of that changed overnight and I had to kind of completely reorientate my life around it and that was really hard. Now I'm so, I'm glad I did it and the business continued to grow and flourish. But the best way I can describe it and again, I don't know if this stuff makes sense to anybody but from the outside in it looks like I'm doing the same thing I was always doing, but from the inside it's like but you're totally different and your life looks totally different.

Speaker 1: 51:40

Okay, so, he. What it made me think of when you're talking about all this stuff is the the now, what, what next? What does this all mean? What is this all for? That's like the the midlife crisis, right we? We have the vernacular speech that describes this process. Yeah, everybody you know, just okay.

Speaker 2: 51:55

Well, let's double down on the career. Let's go out drinking.

Speaker 1: 52:04

Let's right, exactly so. You could have done that, but I feel like the context of all of the spiritual work that you've done before and the great pause of 2020, it's like you're you're faced with the only way is through, and well props to you, sir, for taking that route, because that wasn't easy, and I'm sure that you had several things happening concurrently, even that you haven't mentioned, like I think you mentioned that you had a remodel and that there was a whole debacle with, like, the ceiling falling down, some ridiculous things that you went through and you could have, at any point, said you know what? I'm full of shit. This is crazy. This is ridiculous. I'm going to go buy my Porsche, right?

Speaker 2: 52:38

You could have, yeah, yeah, and I think you just keep like, okay. When I went through those times and other similar themes in my life I'm a very visual person, so I don't know if other people have this, but I had I always had a visual in my mind of a tunnel with a light at the other end of it, and that's what it really feels like. And I think it's very easy for us to believe a distortion, that when things are bad, this is how it's going to a more fatalistic, doomsday oriented future. And it helped and served me to know that again. Accept and choose that. This is painful, this is not pleasant, that's fine, and it's temporary. This, too, shall pass. Every day.

Speaker 2: 53:29

It was like that light at the end was getting closer and closer and it was just like you know, hold hold and we'll get through this. And instead of going back you know what I mean it's like, okay, I started walking five steps, let's go back and retreat, and I don't know, I've just never done that. It's just like you just keep weathering the storm and you come through the other side of it instead of going back. And I think that's where the shamanic death becomes really hard for us is the unwillingness to let go. So if we can't let go of the thing that showed up in our life to teach us that we need to let it go, it gets bigger, it gets louder, it takes longer, it's more painful, and if we retreat and go backwards and we're definitely holding on to it. So I just kind of learned quicker to let you know, let go. That's still not easy.

Speaker 1: 54:25

It's absolutely not easy. Here's what I want to get to. It sounds so nice and fluffy. Yeah, yeah, you just release and surrender, you sit with the lesson, you learn the lesson, it goes faster. What does that look like for you? Because you have a business, you have a team, you have a full life. Do you have daily practices, do you? Oh yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2: 54:45

So many, so many daily practices. Gosh, where do I? Where do I begin? You know, working with with a shaman. He's given us a tremendous amount of of, of practices, but at the core of it is a practice of finding yourself in silence, and the more silence you can cultivate, and stillness of the body, silence of the mind, the more present, the more in the now that we are. So that's the first one. So you're noticing, when something's hard, it's gonna be a lot harder when we're in our thinking brain going past, future, future, past, past, past, future, future, future. What if this happens, then that's gonna happen to today, and then we're in our fears and we're in our worries and we're feeding that and it just takes us the fuck down right. First one, and the greatest one that I'm always trying to improve myself with is is the cultivation of, of silence. Because he told us long ago, all the answers come in the silence. And, gosh, ain't that fricking true. So trying to cultivate that as much as we can and bring that into our lives is going to really serve us. Now you said something else which you know very quickly, which is really important, which is you said something to the effect of like we forget who we are. So the other practice is this constant rumination and recapitulation and just putting our attention on our intention to remember who we are truly, and one of the first times I met him he said the James that you think you are when you look in the mirror is not who you really are. In fact, that's just the pinky of who you truly are. It's the smallest who, and this goes for all of us. The 3D aspect of yourself that you can see, that you can touch, is the smallest and youngest aspect of who we really are. And so then the question becomes who's driving the bus?

Speaker 2: 56:49

I thought things were important that weren't. For example, if you were going to lose a lot of money, why have I made money so important? Oh, what will people think? What will friends and family think? Why is what other people think important? It's not, it's not. It's fine if you care what other people think, but it's not important. And what someone thinks of you is not more important than how you think about yourself. Ever right, and I realized the things that would have made this harder were things that were not important. So if I've made these unimportant things important, then I'm giving my power away to them I give my power. If you give your power away to money, money has power over you and sadly, we make money our master and we. We worship money and we make it our number one value and we make it more important than anything else. And I had done that in my, my younger life. And ironically with the money concept is, the more you give your power away to money, the more it can elude you.

Speaker 2: 57:48

So, like I learned long ago to care about how I feel to be, you know, tony Robbins says turn frustration into fascination.

Speaker 2: 57:54

I think we should be fascinated by all of our emotional states, and so I would pay attention to how I was feeling, especially during this time, but every day, and I would get in touch with that, and you know, you've probably heard those quotes or thoughts that are, you know, thoughts mirror emotions, mirror emotions, mirror thoughts.

Speaker 2: 58:11

So I would notice that maybe I was unconsciously not present, not in silence, not in the now and getting into an emotion, and when I could recognize that I'd become more present. Awareness cultivates presence, and I noticed that every single time I was in a disempowering or uncomfortable emotional state, it was because I was feeding a thought and that thought, anytime. It was uncomfortable or a disempowerpowering emotion, was a distortion, it was a lie, it was not true. It was something that I was making important that wasn't. And so, little by little, I was like reclaiming my personal power. So why am I making what a stranger thinks about me, or this certain amount of money that it's going to cost, or why am I making that so important? And, little by little, like if all this is making sense and maybe it is, and maybe it's not for people, and maybe it will once you go through something challenging, it was like I was walking myself back to my center and my equilibrium, and when you're in your center, you're in truth.

Speaker 2: 59:08

So anytime I was not in that, I had to find myself coming back to what is true, and I noticed that anytime I felt in my center was because I had more clarity clarity of what was true, what is important and whatnot. And I see a lot of people that struggle and suffer for a long time because they are feeding or giving their power away to something that's actually not true.

Speaker 1: 59:33

And often multiple things. Multiple things All at the same time, all the stories.

Speaker 2: 59:38

Yeah, this is a real. I think this is one of the most. I have a lot, but I think this one has been a really powerful tool for me and it's this concept and I don't know if you've ever heard me talk about this, but it's this concept that our emotions become a barometer for for truth or distortion. And so we have free will and so we can choose, you know, what we want to think, what we want to feel, what we want to say, what we want to do, and we choose our actions. And you know. Then we say, okay, there's spirit or God, or source, universe or higher self, soul, whatever words we want to use, and all of that.

Speaker 2: 1:00:14

And we then have emotions that we could, that we could just break into positive, good feeling emotions and like uncomfortable, disempowering emotions, like whatever you want to label them. It's just like you know, there's emotions that feel good, like joy and and enthusiasm and excitement and gratitude, and there's ones like anger and frustration and shame. So we know some feel good, some feel bad, and so if we break them into those two categories, the concept is as simple as when we choose free will to separate ourselves from the perspective of God or our higher self. To the degree in which we separate from that truth or perspective is the degree in which we'll feel those uncomfortable emotions and there's a lot of people that hear that for the first time and they're like bullshit. But every single time you try it on, you notice that there's some distortion, that we're believing and even fear in so many contexts. Fear is choosing to believe in something that you don't want to have happen. It's a unwanted future, something you don't want, that you have decided this is probably going to happen.

Speaker 1: 1:01:25

Yeah, and misuse of the imagination, right.

Speaker 2: 1:01:28

Exactly so you're going. I'm going to manifest this thing I don't want and it feels like shit. And so, little by little, we have the opportunity to learn how to have mental mastery over our attention. Because I do believe it's so much mindset, because we are electromagnetic beings, right, so our thoughts are electric, our emotions are magnetic. So at any moment we get to get into the driver's seat and unsw, switch, the autopilot switch and be intentional with where we put our attention. And one of the first things my shaman also said to me is you are where your attention is. So when you notice your emotional state, where has your attention been? What have you been feeding? What have you been giving your power to? You shift where you place your attention. You will shift everything. You shift your energy, your frequency, your state, the decisions that you end up making, your actions, et cetera. So I continued to make that a priority for myself. I continued to make that something important as a practice and that assisted me tremendously.

Speaker 1: 1:02:30

Definitely, definitely. I think that's the basis of any spiritual practice is to connect with the spiritual part of ourselves, the soul level part of ourselves. But then, how do you? What is our responsibility then, as an empowered, connected, aligned soul in the 3D? How do we human from that place?

Speaker 2: 1:02:47

How do we human from that place? I feel like that's such a big question. I mean, I can go in a lot, of, a lot of places. You know, it's like everything is the same but different. You know, I'm still doing, still taking out the trash, still, you know, doing doing the errands and stuff. There's a concept called context or cognitive lens, and it's like the goggles through which you see life and I think some people I don't know I'm not trying to be judgy, but I think spirituality has become something really trendy and really cool and kind of people wear it like a costume and so they want to social signal that look at me, I'm spiritual and as a really, in fact, spiritual ego is one of the worst things that we can develop.

Speaker 2: 1:03:40

And I think when people especially in the beginning very common, because one of the like common things people talk about in spiritual conversations is like raising your frequency. So if you're not careful and don't understand what that means, people think raising their frequency means raising themselves above other people. Like if you're not careful and don't understand what that means, people think raising their frequency means raising themselves above other people. Like now you're better than and that's like the opposite, like couldn't be further from from the truth and so how do I human is like the humbleness of the, of the mundane and the and the day-to-day from the outside and what's really different becomes how you perceive all of that and through which lens you see it. All you know, and I think that's the beauty and I think that's everything is. It's ultimately everyone's spiritual journey becomes this intimate, internal. You know personal experience and and a lot of how you, how I now see life becomes. You know private to yourself, like if I notice a synchronicity or you know, get a sense of something or an intuition or a hit.

Speaker 2: 1:04:52

It's yours and doesn't need to be like broadcasted or turned into a Halloween costume or something, but I don't know. I think I've continued to find a day to day. On the outside that sounds, it seems very similar If you were observing me from the outside, like with a video camera. But I think internally there's more presence, so I'm more aware as I go through my day. There's more gratitude throughout my day. There's more of an intent of like. How do you spread kindness or be your best for somebody else? You know, like I said earlier, like having a context of like wow for somebody else. You know, like I said earlier, like having a context of like wow, just your mere existence matters. You know, and I think that's how I human. Can you human from a perspective that is not human? Can you see yourself from a different perspective than just your 3D eyes?

Speaker 2: 1:05:52

you know, and even like here's another little practice, and I did a podcast episode on this.

Speaker 2: 1:05:56

I don't know if you have like a morning routine I'm sure you do but I have a really simple but really powerful nightly routine and the simplest version of it is a process of recapitulation of the entire day, the review of the day, trying to see where did I leak my personal power, when did I leak energy and can I reclaim all of that and can I declare this day complete.

Speaker 2: 1:06:22

The basic metaphor that really grounds this for people is if you go throughout your day with a backpack and things happen, and every time something happens like you stub your toe or get some negative comment on Instagram or something it's like putting a rock into this backpack and by the end of the day you've had a few rocks and it's like it's getting heavier. And if you could cultivate a practice where, no matter what happened in that day, we take off the backpack and that day is complete and that day is over, and not take that to sleep or dream time with us, there's a beautiful completion of your day in that. You know what I mean. So when I do like even just a review of the day, I can see something in this different perspective that I couldn't see before and that has been like really, really powerful, because oftentimes we're just picking up rocks, putting them in the backpack. Six months, a year later, we're like gosh, this feels so heavy and I'm so tired and why this? And I'm so emotional.

Speaker 1: 1:07:22

Everything feels so hard.

Speaker 2: 1:07:24

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1: 1:07:25

Yeah, awesome, so real quick. Thank you for that, because I feel like that's practical advice that people can actually take home and implement. I wanted to use these business by design cards that I got in my welcome box, and you could use anything as a divination tool, which is so interesting and so cool. If you start to look at the world from that spiritual perspective, anything can be a tool with which we communicate with ourselves and with our spirit side. So, to that end, let's use these. Let's see what we come up with. What's going to happen is you tell me when to stop shuffling and we're going to pick out a message for the collective and I'll let you know what it is. I'll show the camera and if you could just give us a little stop download insight on that.

Speaker 1: 1:08:20

Ha, anything is fucking possible. Just in case you forgot.

Speaker 2: 1:08:25

That's a good one. Huh, that's a good one. Anything is possible. That is truth. If you connect that with what do I want, then you're well on your way.

Speaker 2: 1:08:36

Most people have a really hard time answering that question what do I want? What do I want? They'll tell you what they don't want. They'll tell you what they're supposed to want, what's expected. They'll also tell you here's what I want. That, I believe, is possible, but it's very rare for someone to unfiltered, honestly and accurately say this is actually what I really want. And if it's very rare for someone to unfiltered, honestly and accurately say this is actually what I really want, and if it's that honest, accurate, from within answer, that means it's inevitable, it's a possibility. It just means you'll have to do what it takes to get what you want, and that becomes more of the deciding factor.

Speaker 2: 1:09:09

Anybody listening should never again doubt their dreams. Is this really possible? What you should be doubting is am I really willing to give what it takes To bring this in, to make this a reality? And that's where the question is. Of course, it's possible. That's not in question. If you want it, it's, it's possible. But am I willing to do what it takes and give what it takes. So I look at it like this when it comes to manifesting, I look at it as there's a piece of it that people don't really think of, which is the thing that you want, has needs, and if you don't give it what it needs, you don't. You don't get to bring it in. So here's like a cliche. I don't think it's cliche, but it's a very simple example of it. Like, let's say, someone says like I want to build a million dollar personal brand, okay, well, there's certain things in that timeline and that reality, that vision manifested, that basically are what would be the word like circumstances and factors that are probably not present in your life now, that you may not be prepared for, one of which would be having a lot of eyeballs on you, criticism. One of which would be having a lot of eyeballs on you, criticism, rejection, negative comments and if you right now, today, want that, but one negative comment takes you down and you go I don't want to learn how to stop giving my power away to negative comments Then no matter how badly you want that thing, there's still a part of you that's pushing it away, and that's where people like don't really understand is like you don't think that somebody that's got hundreds of thousands of followers has more negativity, judgment or criticism than someone that has five followers. And you take yourself down when you get one hater.

Speaker 2: 1:10:47

So everything that we're manifesting is actually manifesting the lived experience lesson. You know, I love that quote. The student goes to the guru and says what's the difference between? You said life is a school, but what's the difference between life and school? And the guru says that's easy. In school you learn the lesson first and then you take the test. In life You're giving the test to see if you learn the lesson. So you're manifesting these experiences to teach you how to reclaim your personal power, to teach you who you really are, to prepare you for what you really want.

Speaker 2: 1:11:20

And so people often think like, oh, I've just been trying. For so long I've been manifesting, I did all that stuff and it's not working. Maybe it's not meant to be, maybe it's not for me. And I say I just won't ever prescribe to that it's possible. And am I willing to give what it takes? Am I willing to learn the lessons that must be learned in order for that manifestation to appear in my life? And if that made sense, then hopefully you'll take on your next shamanic death and learn the lessons there are to learn so you can manifest what you actually wanted all along.

Speaker 1: 1:11:51

Yeah, exactly, and it's the 3D lessons and the 5D lessons. It's the strategy and it's the energy. You can't have one without the other and expect to get the thing that you think you want. Right, it's just not gonna happen.

Speaker 2: 1:12:02

Yeah, we're still doing a 3D dance here. You still gotta take action and whatnot. So it's both.

Speaker 1: 1:12:08

It's both. It's both Soul, both. It's both Soul level. Human. There it is. So I usually ask for book recommendations, but James has an incredible secret podcast that he just released this year that has an entire workbook and it includes some book recommendations. So if you want it, I'm going to put the link in the show notes. James, is there anything soul level that you'd like to leave us with today that we can take and chew on for the rest of the day? Just one little itty bitty spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down.

Speaker 2: 1:12:36

Oh my gosh. Anything else, no, but I do appreciate you recommending that secret podcast. The Sorcerer CEO is, you know, my attempt to pass on a lot of what I've learned in the several years on a spiritual path working with the shaman, things that have really, really helped me, and there's a lot in there and I will, I guess.

Speaker 2: 1:12:55

I'll just say that what I have found is they seem simple and subtle from a 3d perspective are the things that have had the most, you know, profound impact in my life. So don't don't discredit those things, don't scoff at them, because all of it is a is about a discipline at them, because all of it is about a discipline. It's all of it is about a commitment to consistency and repetition and building those habits into place. And so even something as simple as a gratitude practice being grateful, once anybody can do that, can you let that permeate into your day, every single day? Can you wake up with gratitude and go to bed with that? And it's easy on some days and it's hard on others, and when you can do it on the hard days you're you're getting closer to a level of mastery, and mastery is is the goal, and mastery requires that discipline, that consistency and repetition that discipline, that consistency and repetition.

Speaker 1: 1:13:57

So, yeah, amen. And none of us gets out alive. So we only have time, right, the literal life or death experience that we're living over here, right, okay, james, I will let you go because you are incredible and busy and wonderful and amazing, so I'm so grateful for your time and attention.

Speaker 2: 1:14:13

Thank you so much Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1: 1:14:16

That brings us to the end of this soul level conversation with James Wenmore. To my soul level human listeners, thank you for already following the intuition to tune in today, and I'm so excited for everything that's in store for all of us on this journey together. If you've enjoyed this episode, please leave us a comment or review, share with a friend and subscribe for more soul-level conversations. I'm Sylvia Beatrice and this is Soul Level Human.